The Australian Royal Commission into the Institutional Response to Child Sexual Abuse reveals some revolting conduct on the part of church organisations and government authorities; but what is unsaid is that the behaviour was produced in partnership with a complicit social context. There was a tendency in the 40s to 50s and even 60s to regard children as lesser people, almost as objects for the application of authority against them, to regard church groups as trusted self-governing organisations that 'knew best' as they engaged in the (public) humiliation, terrifying of and injuriously inflicting immense pain upon children. Most parents hit their children and thought that it was the right thing to do. It was not. Police acted as though children were congenitally oppositional and failed to believe them, as did other authorities, and if they didn't, nothing a child said was important anyway.
However, churches should be influenced by the Bible and not society.
Where's the starting point?
There are a few candidates, but all together the scriptures structure the way church organisations should work and provide no excuse for the godless behaviour they abetted.
Let's start with Matthew 18:6. Our lord was so concerned that children's relationship with him be unimpaired by the actions of adults that he reserved the most grave fate for those who transgressed it. This alone should have exercised church authorities to remove the cancer of evil from their communities. But it did not.
And churches should have known, as Lord Acton observed, that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". The Spirit got there first, however in Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is wicked...who can know it."
Knowing this and that we are all sinners, all prone to damage others, their guard should have been up, particularly as they saw people doing directly what the scriptures opposed: Ephesians 6:4 tells us how to raise children (and don't think that Proverbs 23:13 overturns this; it is a proverb, not a command; it is figurative not descriptive, just compare it to the extravagant language in other proverbs: do you really put a knife to your throat when you eat with the king, Proverbs 23:1-2?).
So what should a church organisation have done if it saw someone behaving against Ephesians 6:4, and not conforming in their manner to the vulnerable as Galatians 5:22 instructs?
Should they have kept it 'in-house'? Not at all!
Knowing the wickedness of a person who so acted, and that the corruption of power was at hand, seeing behaviour that was disjoined from a community infused with the Spirit of our saviour they should have excised the perpetrators from that community immediately (there's plenty of basis in the Bible for dis-fellowshipping evil-doers) and referred the people involved to the police, because the state holds the sword for the restraint of evil. Romans 13:3-5 and not the church.
This blog started as a discussion area for people interested in the biblical treatment of 'origins' in the Anglican Communion; now it covers a little more!
"You are my God. My times are in your hands" Ps. 31:14-15a
29 April 2014
28 April 2014
A little Bad Science
How can you know that its Bad Science? Here's how:
Just like most urging of evolutionist authors: even Darwin was full of it...'just imagine'.
Just like most urging of evolutionist authors: even Darwin was full of it...'just imagine'.
23 April 2014
Whose beliefs?
In a local newspaper (it charges for web use, so I won't name it) mention was made of the new NSW Premier Mike Baird's 'conservative Christian' beliefs and that these were connected with his rejection of so-called 'gay' marriage (I must say, we all felt pretty gay at my wedding...I resent a good word being stolen in a transparent attempt to legitimise sexual perversion) and single sex adoption (i.e. two blokes, etc.)
It was set as though his rejection of these touted twists to society were part of some strange 'add-on' to his thought world called 'beliefs', in contrast to those who supported such notions from somewhere else in their psyche: based on 'rights', I suppose, or 'choice' etc.
But all we have, is beliefs. Some people's are grounded in the revelation of our creator, others are secured by little more that the almost solipsistic triumphalism of the self; but this too is a belief; and, dare I point out, a 'religious' belief. That is, it makes reference to something taken as basic in reality. For modern individualistic westerners nothing is more basic than 'what I think and for no particular reason', however it is dressed up ('rights', 'choice', etc, as though these movements of the will hang somewhere in the air).
Thus, it is a contest of beliefs, not only about God or our contingent existence, but the way society works over time, the way the young are nurtured (and produced: same-sexism is, of course parasitic on proper sexual conduct that produces offspring) and the structure of marriage to provide an orderly method for providing for the welfare of mothers and children.
In these terms it is obvious that marriage of male to male is not marriage, or a play at marriage to pretend legitimacy of conduct, much like single sex adoption is a weird play at families that are impossible to produce through the conduct represented, showing it up for the sham it is.
Society has historically resisted such practices because they contain the destruction of society: in a single generation if ubiquitous, but still, it constitutes a 'death-style' to quote an American politician, in hollow parody of a 'life-style'.
It was set as though his rejection of these touted twists to society were part of some strange 'add-on' to his thought world called 'beliefs', in contrast to those who supported such notions from somewhere else in their psyche: based on 'rights', I suppose, or 'choice' etc.
But all we have, is beliefs. Some people's are grounded in the revelation of our creator, others are secured by little more that the almost solipsistic triumphalism of the self; but this too is a belief; and, dare I point out, a 'religious' belief. That is, it makes reference to something taken as basic in reality. For modern individualistic westerners nothing is more basic than 'what I think and for no particular reason', however it is dressed up ('rights', 'choice', etc, as though these movements of the will hang somewhere in the air).
Thus, it is a contest of beliefs, not only about God or our contingent existence, but the way society works over time, the way the young are nurtured (and produced: same-sexism is, of course parasitic on proper sexual conduct that produces offspring) and the structure of marriage to provide an orderly method for providing for the welfare of mothers and children.
In these terms it is obvious that marriage of male to male is not marriage, or a play at marriage to pretend legitimacy of conduct, much like single sex adoption is a weird play at families that are impossible to produce through the conduct represented, showing it up for the sham it is.
Society has historically resisted such practices because they contain the destruction of society: in a single generation if ubiquitous, but still, it constitutes a 'death-style' to quote an American politician, in hollow parody of a 'life-style'.
21 April 2014
Tips for atheists
On the Drum (an ABC discussion forum), John Dickson helpful gives atheists some tips about discussing with Christians.
He gets a few points for trying, looses points for being condescending and smug, but shoots himself in his foot when it gets to '6-day creation'.
Naturally, he steps around it on the 'popular vote' principle (you know, science is established by popular vote), but fails theologically.
What is hilarious is that many of the comments on Dickson's tips fell back to 'science' (admittedly, in a juvenile and superficial manner) to rebut his views that themselves start with an ungrounded creation: a creation account that has no real world connections is just like a creation account that means nothing; it is the real world as locus of our being together that counts. If God cannot make the connection in terms of the very creation that he authored, then there is no connection to be made, and the 'ground of our being' is not God, but as the materialists have it.
Thanks John, you've just thrown the race and helped more people to perdition.
He gets a few points for trying, looses points for being condescending and smug, but shoots himself in his foot when it gets to '6-day creation'.
Naturally, he steps around it on the 'popular vote' principle (you know, science is established by popular vote), but fails theologically.
What is hilarious is that many of the comments on Dickson's tips fell back to 'science' (admittedly, in a juvenile and superficial manner) to rebut his views that themselves start with an ungrounded creation: a creation account that has no real world connections is just like a creation account that means nothing; it is the real world as locus of our being together that counts. If God cannot make the connection in terms of the very creation that he authored, then there is no connection to be made, and the 'ground of our being' is not God, but as the materialists have it.
Thanks John, you've just thrown the race and helped more people to perdition.
Knowing nothing
I'm re-reading Stove's book Darwinian Fairytales at the moment; full of 'emporeror's new clothes' class of bon mots contra darwinian evolution, as it is.
Here's one:
Here's one:
All Darwinians have a remarkable asymmetry of mind where their own species is concerned. On the one hand there is the human life which, both by experience and by reading history and literature, they know a great deal about; but all of this they put to one side, as having nothing to do with theory. They have to put it aside, because of course this human life contains not a single instance of the famous Darwinian struggle, and in fact consists entirely of disconfirmations of that theory. But on the other hand, Darwinians draw endless confirmations of their theory form the lives of extinct or hypothetical or imaginary or impossible human beings, concerning whom they know exactly as much as the reset of us do: namely nothing. for Darwinians, where their own species is concerned, it's not what you know that counts; its what you don't know.And that just about sums it up.
17 April 2014
Evolution is for...'clever' people.
Steven Kates in Quadrant has put it quite succinctly:
But, but … evolution based on sheer chance; on random mutations and natural selection? It simply doesn’t pass the sniff test. Only very clever people could believe it in that form without there being much more compelling evidence.
13 April 2014
8 April 2014
What if Darwin was right?
The typical conversation with parents that I have at work goes something like:
"Your child has a difference in their genes that means they won't develop along typical lines (I've generalised the gender on purpose). I'm very sorry to have to tell you that they have a condition known as ARX (Aristaless related homeobox) mutation that gives rise to intellectual disability."
If Darwin was right and evolution happened as he claimed, I'd be having conversations like this:
"Your child's development has been a little unusual. We've done a genetic test and he has a mutation on one of his genes that means he will probably never fall ill."
OR
"We've run a genetic test on your child for a recently identified mutation that only boys get. If he develops like most people with this mutation, he will have a life of incredible athletic performance and social capability."
OR
"The tests on your child show that he will be likely to lead an extraordinary life. Your biggest challenge will be to keep him intellectually stimulated because, if he is like others with this mutation, his intelligence will be extremely high."
But its not like this! We don't see beneficial mutations. We see bad stuff and heartbreak instead.
Same story at the Human Gene Mutation Database: not good news.
So, over to you, Mr Darwin...when will we see the beneficial mutations popping up?
"Your child has a difference in their genes that means they won't develop along typical lines (I've generalised the gender on purpose). I'm very sorry to have to tell you that they have a condition known as ARX (Aristaless related homeobox) mutation that gives rise to intellectual disability."
If Darwin was right and evolution happened as he claimed, I'd be having conversations like this:
"Your child's development has been a little unusual. We've done a genetic test and he has a mutation on one of his genes that means he will probably never fall ill."
OR
"We've run a genetic test on your child for a recently identified mutation that only boys get. If he develops like most people with this mutation, he will have a life of incredible athletic performance and social capability."
OR
"The tests on your child show that he will be likely to lead an extraordinary life. Your biggest challenge will be to keep him intellectually stimulated because, if he is like others with this mutation, his intelligence will be extremely high."
But its not like this! We don't see beneficial mutations. We see bad stuff and heartbreak instead.
Same story at the Human Gene Mutation Database: not good news.
So, over to you, Mr Darwin...when will we see the beneficial mutations popping up?
2 April 2014
28 March 2014
Galileo
Interesting account of how people today (particularly those unstudied in the history of ideas) probably misread the Galileo affair: too often as modernists with a modernist view of science and ideas.
Feyerabend in Against Method (quoted, of all people by McCloskey in The Rhetoric of Economics, Jnl of Economic Literature, 1983) has this to say:
Feyerabend in Against Method (quoted, of all people by McCloskey in The Rhetoric of Economics, Jnl of Economic Literature, 1983) has this to say:
Had the modernist criterion of persuasion been adopted by Galileo’s contemporaries, the Galilean case would have failed. A grant proposal to use the strange premise that terrestrial optics applied also to the celestial sphere, to assert that the tides were the sloshing of water on a mobile earth, and to suppose that the fuzzy views of Jupiter’s alleged moons would prove, by a wild analogy, that the planets, too , went around the sun as did the moons around Jupiter would not have survived the first round of peer review in a National Science Foundation of 1632.After all, they were Aristotelians back then (as most village-idiot evolutionists today are too).
24 March 2014
Just a 'side issue'
It seems that there are Christians who consider the question of origin/the biblical doctrine of creation to be a less important element of the Bible's teaching than, say, the texts directly concerned with salvation.
This thinking is half-baked at best. Is it not important to salvation that we know who God is? He establishes his identity by his being creator, and not some creator that is melded with the creation, that various process theories (e.g. theistic evolution) would require, but one who is sovereign over creation, sub-contracting none of it to mediating factors.
The misconception I refer to above also misunderstands the Bible. It is not finally about salvation, this is just a way station to God's kingdom coming, and the creation sets the scene meaningfully for the great arc of scripture from creation, through fall to resurrection and the new creation. The setting fragments into meaninglessness if God's authorship of creation is other than he sets out, because then we have no idea what it is or who God is, or how he is distinguished from the creation.
This thinking is half-baked at best. Is it not important to salvation that we know who God is? He establishes his identity by his being creator, and not some creator that is melded with the creation, that various process theories (e.g. theistic evolution) would require, but one who is sovereign over creation, sub-contracting none of it to mediating factors.
The misconception I refer to above also misunderstands the Bible. It is not finally about salvation, this is just a way station to God's kingdom coming, and the creation sets the scene meaningfully for the great arc of scripture from creation, through fall to resurrection and the new creation. The setting fragments into meaninglessness if God's authorship of creation is other than he sets out, because then we have no idea what it is or who God is, or how he is distinguished from the creation.
22 March 2014
Killing kids
I don't usually stray into this area, but it has become necessary.
How to kill children: it tells us that libertarians hate people and individualism is a berserk value.
How to kill children: it tells us that libertarians hate people and individualism is a berserk value.
20 March 2014
Dawkins does Dallas
The splitters over in Rome gave me kind permission to link to this review of Dawkins recent film "Why Believe when You Can Dawkins".
17 March 2014
Blind leading the blind
I saw a church bulletin today announcing a parish meeting to discuss 'governance and leadership' and a meeting for small group leaders.
Just to translate to Christian terminology and concepts:
The parish meeting was to discuss how the church would organise its activities and ministries, with small group ministry workers/convenors/moderators meeting afterwards.
Nice that there are proper Christian ways of talking about how we come together in the charismatic community that is the church.
Pity that most want to borrow the buffoonery language of the world.
Just to translate to Christian terminology and concepts:
The parish meeting was to discuss how the church would organise its activities and ministries, with small group ministry workers/convenors/moderators meeting afterwards.
Nice that there are proper Christian ways of talking about how we come together in the charismatic community that is the church.
Pity that most want to borrow the buffoonery language of the world.
6 March 2014
Who are you, God? 2
Further to God's identity and his activity in creation.
The view that the Genesis account is impressionistic, and that creation 'really' happened otherwise either holds that God could not have created as the account sets out (or he was unable to communicate the connection between his word and its outcome), and that it must be as the materialists say; that is, despite the information in the account, God had to create something else to bring about the creation: a mediator in 'natural law' at best. A created mediator and a mediator of his will other than Christ!
But it goes further; this view disperses God's sovereignty into his creation, and into the domain of pagan speculation that de-personalises creation, putting us in a 'world' where God is not author proximately, but is distant, vague, and un-known-about.
The view that the Genesis account is impressionistic, and that creation 'really' happened otherwise either holds that God could not have created as the account sets out (or he was unable to communicate the connection between his word and its outcome), and that it must be as the materialists say; that is, despite the information in the account, God had to create something else to bring about the creation: a mediator in 'natural law' at best. A created mediator and a mediator of his will other than Christ!
But it goes further; this view disperses God's sovereignty into his creation, and into the domain of pagan speculation that de-personalises creation, putting us in a 'world' where God is not author proximately, but is distant, vague, and un-known-about.
1 March 2014
Who are you, God?
A young woman, trained, it appeared, in the Anglican Youthworks College said, without a hint of irony, that the creation account in Genesis was "a sort of poetic response to the pagan myths of that time".
So...let's get this straight: God's revelation is just a response to what pagans say? I don't think so. God is initiator, not respondent! He leads, is not led. He reveals himself. His mission is not to 'disreveal' paganism.
But think further: this view leaves God's chief credential for our worship and his motive for our salvation in the hands of materialism!
Still, at least she didn't trot out the empty framework hypothesis...but she clearly wasn't given any tips about Hebrew poetry either. Perhaps some time with Kugel would help.
So...let's get this straight: God's revelation is just a response to what pagans say? I don't think so. God is initiator, not respondent! He leads, is not led. He reveals himself. His mission is not to 'disreveal' paganism.
But think further: this view leaves God's chief credential for our worship and his motive for our salvation in the hands of materialism!
Still, at least she didn't trot out the empty framework hypothesis...but she clearly wasn't given any tips about Hebrew poetry either. Perhaps some time with Kugel would help.
16 February 2014
The apologetics of environmental romaticism
In Christianity Explored, the opening video has Rico Tice telling us how wonderful 'nature' is and that its beauty points us to God.
I wonder if he was thinking of a tiger pulling its live prey to pieces when he came out with that tosh?
The creation certainly is a major pointer to God, its creator, but it has to be thoughtfully and critically done, not by mere romantic ramblings.
Along this line, I came across the following in an article "The Costs of the Environmentalism Cult"
The central mistake of the romantic environmentalist is to gloss over the profound differences between human beings and the natural world. We are not “natural” creatures. What makes us human is everything that exists nowhere else in the natural world: the mind, language, consciousness, memory, higher emotions, and culture. None of these exist even in the highest primates. Apes do not craft tools, marry, name their offspring, bury their dead, live by laws or customs, or respect inalienable rights. This radical uniqueness of human identity means that we do not have a “harmonious” relationship with nature, but an adversarial and conflicted one. The natural world is the alien, inhuman realm of blind force, indifferent to suffering, death, and beauty. It is meaningless, for only humans bestow meaning on the world. And that meaning reflects our knowledge that each of us is unique, a creature that appears only once, and that each of us must die.
Most important, unlike everything else in the natural world ruled by necessity, humans are free. As French critic Luc Ferry writes, “Man is free enough to die of freedom.” And from that freedom comes morality, all the things we are obligated to do or not do, particularly in regard to our fellow humans. The nexus of consciousness of our individual uniqueness and necessary death, our freedom to choose to act against nature’s determinism, and our moral obligations to one another is what makes us unnatural––and human. Nature is our home only by dint of our alteration of it to make it suitable for such creatures, and that process is one of conflict and struggle against the brutal forces of extinction and destruction that have characterized the natural world for the 3.6 billion years life has existed.Like many modern evangelical activities, CE talks about God the creator, but not in a real and tangible way; from my memory the CE people are of the 'God created, but evolution was his 'mechanism' " school; so they can't connect God tangibly with his creation, and leave the link in story land. Then they are left having to avoid 'natural evil' and not place it in context of a creation that is turned against its creator.
29 January 2014
God's "mechanism" ?
One of the hoary old stories of Theistic Evolution, often delivered with a smugness borne of unexamination, is that evolution provides the mechanism for God's creative acts, as though God needs a "mechanism" when his word is power itself!
For a counterpoint, here's how an evolutionist (Daniel Dennet) grabs for a 'mechanism' for his own evolutionary fantasies, explaining how the improbable came about:
For a counterpoint, here's how an evolutionist (Daniel Dennet) grabs for a 'mechanism' for his own evolutionary fantasies, explaining how the improbable came about:
And then, one fine day, a mutation happened to arise.Yep, that's it...that's the 'explanation'!
27 January 2014
Shown the door
Comment on Challies latest post on 'accountability'
Quote: "effective accountability [is]…able to function best when it occurs under the leadership..."
The American church seems to be more interested in 'leadership' than almost anything else. I can only guess that this comes from the toxic environment of American pop business writing, because I don't see it in the Scriptures. There's plenty there on ministry, but none on the modern conceptualisation of 'leadership'; which is the one drawn out and somehow superior to the others. It is an anti-community, anti-brotherhood concept which should be shown the door.
Effective accountability (another dubious concept in itself...I much prefer the scriptural characterisation of loving brotherly support) would be about...loving brotherly support; bearing one-another's burderns is not a 'leader' act, it is a community act.
25 January 2014
Moltmann on the New Creation
Lifted from Think Theology:
And I like his phrase "everything created has been made for love"; love is basic, as it is inherent between the members of the Godhead.
“Whom does John see? He sees the infinite, eternal God coming to the finite beings he has created and to this vulnerable earth. God comes to his transitory creatures on this earth to live among them, and now finally to find rest in his creation as he once did on the sabbath. God will not seek out his dwelling place in special temples or cathedrals. He wants to make his whole creation his home: ‘Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool’ (Isa. 66:1; Acts 7:49). The cosmos is his temple; chaos is his enemy. That is why the beauty of the new creation will drive out chaos. Heaven and earth are waiting to become God’s house, for everything created has been made for love. God’s Spirit is in them all and throws them open for God’s future. God finds no rest until everything he has created has returned home to him, like the prodigal son in the parable.” (Moltmann, Jesus Christ for Today’s World)I pick up on "the cosmos is his temple; chaos is his enemy" Hard to see how the chaos of evolution as hypothesised could be a 'means' of creation, then.
And I like his phrase "everything created has been made for love"; love is basic, as it is inherent between the members of the Godhead.
23 January 2014
The Fake World
Quote from CREDO magazine:
We want to live in the world as conceived by the biblical authors, not the fake-world invented by the evolutionists and secularists and rebels of other stripes.
21 January 2014
Action God
In his piece in Credo on Mark, Matthew Claridge writes as follows:
Genesis is structured in our-world terms, terms that we can make sense of and that have meaning in our world, offering a vision of the creation that is tangible, dramatic, and theologically rich when understood in the context of all God's redemptive purposes. God does things, not just talk about them!
Those who deny that G1 has any correspondence in actual events make a God who prefers to talk about rather than act, or, whose action and words are so far apart as to be non-commutative, pushing the things talked about into an 'upper storey' 'spritual' world that only intersects with our world verbally, not really. It is the pagan philosophical idealism that dogs theology at work, distorting the relationship between God, his creation and humanity.
The focus of G1. to take Claridge's words again, is on the most critical features of God's creative mission: we are only told what is essential to our knowledge of God, the creation and us, for us to discharge our role as stewards of the creation. If merely a piece of analogy, fantasy, or make-believe (which is the end state of most non-realist views of G1), then we are left with no knowledge at all and an ungrounded state of being: that is, nothing to do with the real world that it purports to concern, but limited to a world of the mind with no necessary reference to our event-stream.
In the biblical worldview, Word and Act must never be divorced. God acts, but he is always careful to clearly and accurately interpret for us what those actions mean. Nonetheless, the emphasis on action in Mark offers a vision of Christ that is tangible, dramatic, and theologically rich when understood in the context of all God’s redemptive purposes (more on that later). Christ came to do things, not just talk about things.The same thoughts could easily and appropriately apply to the account of creation in G1. It tells us the mechanism by which God created: he spoke, and his speaking: his will given words, is contiguous with and comprehensively causal of what he intends.
Genesis is structured in our-world terms, terms that we can make sense of and that have meaning in our world, offering a vision of the creation that is tangible, dramatic, and theologically rich when understood in the context of all God's redemptive purposes. God does things, not just talk about them!
Those who deny that G1 has any correspondence in actual events make a God who prefers to talk about rather than act, or, whose action and words are so far apart as to be non-commutative, pushing the things talked about into an 'upper storey' 'spritual' world that only intersects with our world verbally, not really. It is the pagan philosophical idealism that dogs theology at work, distorting the relationship between God, his creation and humanity.
The focus of G1. to take Claridge's words again, is on the most critical features of God's creative mission: we are only told what is essential to our knowledge of God, the creation and us, for us to discharge our role as stewards of the creation. If merely a piece of analogy, fantasy, or make-believe (which is the end state of most non-realist views of G1), then we are left with no knowledge at all and an ungrounded state of being: that is, nothing to do with the real world that it purports to concern, but limited to a world of the mind with no necessary reference to our event-stream.
18 January 2014
Evolution...settled science? No! Belief system
Nice piece by Albert Mohler on this topic. It reminded me a little of Evolution as a Religion by Mary Midgley.
I like a lot of Al's blog posts, but I don't really want to connect with him in my side bar, because there's also lots I don't like. But that goes for most public Christians (and private ones). At least we have diversity in the church!
One of his works that I do like is a talk at the 2010 Ligonier conference on the age of the universe. Many think this is merely an obscure 'scientific' question. It is not, it is a question about the biblical frame of reference and its conception of the world. It goes to the heart of the matter.
While you're at it, check out materialism and the age of the earth, and Geisler's 'Beware of Philosophy' in the JETS 42.1. You can find the link on theological studies.
Here is a selection of Al's work on evolution'ism'
I like a lot of Al's blog posts, but I don't really want to connect with him in my side bar, because there's also lots I don't like. But that goes for most public Christians (and private ones). At least we have diversity in the church!
One of his works that I do like is a talk at the 2010 Ligonier conference on the age of the universe. Many think this is merely an obscure 'scientific' question. It is not, it is a question about the biblical frame of reference and its conception of the world. It goes to the heart of the matter.
While you're at it, check out materialism and the age of the earth, and Geisler's 'Beware of Philosophy' in the JETS 42.1. You can find the link on theological studies.
Here is a selection of Al's work on evolution'ism'
14 January 2014
Calvinist Revival
Scary piece on Credo:
I'd prefer a theology that dealt with the entire Bible, avoiding the special pleading that Calvinists must engage in to avoid the implications of those parts of scripture that contradict their theology.
2. Evangelicals Find Themselves in the Midst of a Calvinist Revival: By Mark Oppenheimer - Oppenheimer notes: “Evangelicalism is in the midst of a Calvinist revival. Increasing numbers of preachers and professors teach the views of the 16th-century French reformer. Mark Driscoll, John Piper and Tim Keller — megachurch preachers and important evangelical authors — are all Calvinist.”As soon as you add to Scripture and its effect in the church, you subtract from it; that is to say, I am a Christian, not a Calvinist. Thus, I follow JD (Joshua Davidson), not JC (John Calvin). Calvin's views were of his time, and persona...dangerous to think that they are uncritically determinist of what theology and church should be now.
I'd prefer a theology that dealt with the entire Bible, avoiding the special pleading that Calvinists must engage in to avoid the implications of those parts of scripture that contradict their theology.
12 January 2014
Creation Psalm
A sermon I recently heard was on Psalm 104, interestingly, described by Spurgeon as the creation in poetry (thereby indicating that at least he didn't think that Genesis 1, etc, could be so described).
I doubt if the sermon giver had given much thought to the creation account and its theological ramifications, as he led us through the half-baked framework hypothesis, which, as I've written elsewhere, does not quite work, and fails as an interpretive scheme.
He then told us that none of the information in the Bible tells us how God created, but that he did. Of course, if God needs a mediating mechanism whereby he creates, then that mechanism stands in his place and is the real creator, determining how things really are. But, not so; the 'mechanism' is God spoke...it happened. Genesis 1 is crystal clear on this.
If the creation account is a metaphor then we need to decide what really happened in the creation...taken at face value, we know, and can trace the trajectory of the creation from God's will to our lives quite clearly. It is linked all the way. But as mere metaphor, then the link is at best, only suggested...and this raises more questions (who is this God who can only suggest at our relationship, a relationship so important, by the way, that it brings us into God's ontological field), at and worst, obscures the relationship completely. Either way, not a good basis on which to build the connections that the Bible makes between creator, creation and creature.
An amusing slip that in the sermon was a reference to 'before the world was know to be round'. I don't think there are any credible documents that there was a time before the earth was thought to be round...its even mentioned, arguably, in Job 26:10, Proverbs 8:27 and Isaiah 40:22. I think he confused Washington Irving's fiction, and how things really are.
I doubt if the sermon giver had given much thought to the creation account and its theological ramifications, as he led us through the half-baked framework hypothesis, which, as I've written elsewhere, does not quite work, and fails as an interpretive scheme.
He then told us that none of the information in the Bible tells us how God created, but that he did. Of course, if God needs a mediating mechanism whereby he creates, then that mechanism stands in his place and is the real creator, determining how things really are. But, not so; the 'mechanism' is God spoke...it happened. Genesis 1 is crystal clear on this.
If the creation account is a metaphor then we need to decide what really happened in the creation...taken at face value, we know, and can trace the trajectory of the creation from God's will to our lives quite clearly. It is linked all the way. But as mere metaphor, then the link is at best, only suggested...and this raises more questions (who is this God who can only suggest at our relationship, a relationship so important, by the way, that it brings us into God's ontological field), at and worst, obscures the relationship completely. Either way, not a good basis on which to build the connections that the Bible makes between creator, creation and creature.
An amusing slip that in the sermon was a reference to 'before the world was know to be round'. I don't think there are any credible documents that there was a time before the earth was thought to be round...its even mentioned, arguably, in Job 26:10, Proverbs 8:27 and Isaiah 40:22. I think he confused Washington Irving's fiction, and how things really are.
27 December 2013
Small Groups & Ministry
I recently attended a training session for small group ministry (they called it 'leadership' but wrong concept...its ministry: service).
The session touched on some biblical material...mainly about diligence in action, and it had a little of a Brookfieldian flavour, but was fairly mechanical, I thought.
In the time available it was possibly helpful for those who were new to small group ministry, but the big omission was the theological basis for meeting in small groups. There is one, and it is about the community together in mutual service; it is also about reading and talking together about the Word of God. None of this, or the theological outcomes were mentioned.
There was far more that could have been done from the perspective of using discussion as a means of teaching. Brookfield has some material on this (more articles here). The only problem is that lead by the Holy Spirit, discussion can go places that aren't lined up with where some remote author of study material thinks it should go...dangerous for authors who think they know where it should go!
In that connection, Jack Mezirow's Transformative Learning is worth some consideration.
The session touched on some biblical material...mainly about diligence in action, and it had a little of a Brookfieldian flavour, but was fairly mechanical, I thought.
In the time available it was possibly helpful for those who were new to small group ministry, but the big omission was the theological basis for meeting in small groups. There is one, and it is about the community together in mutual service; it is also about reading and talking together about the Word of God. None of this, or the theological outcomes were mentioned.
There was far more that could have been done from the perspective of using discussion as a means of teaching. Brookfield has some material on this (more articles here). The only problem is that lead by the Holy Spirit, discussion can go places that aren't lined up with where some remote author of study material thinks it should go...dangerous for authors who think they know where it should go!
In that connection, Jack Mezirow's Transformative Learning is worth some consideration.
24 December 2013
American Culture to Blame
An op-ed piece in the NYT by David Firestone "Is American Culture to Blame for Failing Schools" caught my attention with this view reported:
But the Holy Spirit teaches us differently, and opposes such hierarchy as much as the early church lived out this (in a good sense) anarchism where slaves and owners were together the people of God.
In fact, the NT has little time for the powerful, and much time for the poor, the oppressed and the disadvantaged.
Canadians’ acceptance and indeed pride in their more egalitarian society contrast with Americans’ acceptance of having an underclass,” wrote Blair P., of Palm Desert, Calif. “It’s an Ayn Rand philosophy.This hints at something that may lie beneath the weird non-biblical theology of 'leadership' that emanates from US conservative protestantism. That is, that there are 'them' and 'us' in US society. Some people born to be an underclass, and the clever ones born to 'lead'. An aristocracy as repugnant as any in Europe and the Roman church (with its fond memories of the Roman Empire).
But the Holy Spirit teaches us differently, and opposes such hierarchy as much as the early church lived out this (in a good sense) anarchism where slaves and owners were together the people of God.
In fact, the NT has little time for the powerful, and much time for the poor, the oppressed and the disadvantaged.
20 December 2013
Blow your head off!
A very encouraging article, on Think Theology spoiled by some 'blow your head off' hubris.
I liked this comment:
Once we import the modern glam of 'leadership' we aren't talking church...the body of Christ...we are talking king pins and underlings. We are talking one active agent and a passive, 'just tell me what to do, believe and think' bunch of sermon admirers. Nothing like the conception of the church in the NT, and nothing like the Christ, who came to serve.
The language about and conceptualisation of Christian community in the NT generally and by Paul particularly is just that; community, living growing and serving together. Henry Mintzberg nicely calls it 'communityship'.
End note
The word translated 'lead/leader' in Paul's writings is subject of range of nuances that do not come into the modern English (particularly USA 'popular business') usage of 'leadership'.
This discussion of 'proistemi' (the Greek translated as 'lead') is useful, I think, but insufficiently radically aligned with the scriptures and opposed to the worldly usage that has flooded the church.
I liked this comment:
Kenny, you say "who (2) is leading a church that is comprised of 50% female humans". I don't think you are 'leading' a church. You are serving one, along with all the other ministers in the church. It is the Holy Spirit who is leading.The central concept of Christian ministry is just that: ministry! That is, service to others, service to the church, the body of Christ, service to our Lord himself, service to the broader community of and outside the faith.
Once we import the modern glam of 'leadership' we aren't talking church...the body of Christ...we are talking king pins and underlings. We are talking one active agent and a passive, 'just tell me what to do, believe and think' bunch of sermon admirers. Nothing like the conception of the church in the NT, and nothing like the Christ, who came to serve.
The language about and conceptualisation of Christian community in the NT generally and by Paul particularly is just that; community, living growing and serving together. Henry Mintzberg nicely calls it 'communityship'.
End note
The word translated 'lead/leader' in Paul's writings is subject of range of nuances that do not come into the modern English (particularly USA 'popular business') usage of 'leadership'.
This discussion of 'proistemi' (the Greek translated as 'lead') is useful, I think, but insufficiently radically aligned with the scriptures and opposed to the worldly usage that has flooded the church.
26 November 2013
Creating
I remain puzzled by the view, usually an unclearly defined one, that 'evolution' was or is God's 'method' of creating.
It's an odd method, I must say.
The creation is God exhibiting who he is: it is an act of love and it brings life. These are the impetus and outcome of God acting. He acts in love to bring life, or rather relationship.
But, to turn around and say that death, which is the single dominating feature of evolution (the less fit die while the fit survive and innovate...allegedly innovate to transmogrify 'kinds'), is the engine of creation is perverse to say the least. Death is anti-creation and anti-love.
The proponents of this bizarre theology had better get their explaining skates on.
It's an odd method, I must say.
The creation is God exhibiting who he is: it is an act of love and it brings life. These are the impetus and outcome of God acting. He acts in love to bring life, or rather relationship.
But, to turn around and say that death, which is the single dominating feature of evolution (the less fit die while the fit survive and innovate...allegedly innovate to transmogrify 'kinds'), is the engine of creation is perverse to say the least. Death is anti-creation and anti-love.
The proponents of this bizarre theology had better get their explaining skates on.
22 November 2013
Colemak Genesis 1:1
Slip over here to read Genesis 1:1 written on the home row of the Colemak keyboard.
19 November 2013
Institutional Child Abuse by Church Organisations
There's only one word for the cruel and depraved self indulgent perversion that church bodies have connived at. It's here.
13 November 2013
Yehuda is dead
I think that there should be an essay set for all Christians. It would be to respond to and/or reflect upon the death of Yehuda. It is captured in the essay My little brother, Yehuda Nattan Yudkowsky, is dead.
This young man was only 19, and his older brother posted on his website...follow the link.
Death is confronting. Having attended funerals of many relatives, including my parents, aged from 11 to 80, I know the dull weight of loss that death entials: the permanence. Eliezer captures it in his essay.
But there are a few things that are said about death, by Christians, and by Eliezer, that are both unhelpful and inaccurate: the former because of the latter.
They revolve around God willing death. God doesn't will death. It is a consequence of living in rejection of him and that we live in a world that is disjoined from God. Not his world any longer, but ours. Fellowship, family denied. We wrested from him. Death is the end of relationship with all the implicative vastness that this implies.
Yeshua wept because death was not of him, but contrary to him, the creator. His world was not like this! The warning to Adam was that the knowledge was not a thing to be sought, but a thing that would be experienced. The sentence in Gensis 2:17 is recursive. Yeshua stepped through death to undo it; because what is finally real is not material, but person-al.
This young man was only 19, and his older brother posted on his website...follow the link.
Death is confronting. Having attended funerals of many relatives, including my parents, aged from 11 to 80, I know the dull weight of loss that death entials: the permanence. Eliezer captures it in his essay.
But there are a few things that are said about death, by Christians, and by Eliezer, that are both unhelpful and inaccurate: the former because of the latter.
They revolve around God willing death. God doesn't will death. It is a consequence of living in rejection of him and that we live in a world that is disjoined from God. Not his world any longer, but ours. Fellowship, family denied. We wrested from him. Death is the end of relationship with all the implicative vastness that this implies.
Yeshua wept because death was not of him, but contrary to him, the creator. His world was not like this! The warning to Adam was that the knowledge was not a thing to be sought, but a thing that would be experienced. The sentence in Gensis 2:17 is recursive. Yeshua stepped through death to undo it; because what is finally real is not material, but person-al.
6 November 2013
University Goddess
Universities the seat of rationalism?
Sign at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia
Not that surprising, I suppose, because this university teaches...wait for it...chiropractic...witch-doctoring!!
Sign at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia
Not that surprising, I suppose, because this university teaches...wait for it...chiropractic...witch-doctoring!!
9 October 2013
Life? It means...molecules
And they think that evolution is not a religion:
“It now seems that modern evolutionary biology can answer not merely the chicken-and-egg conundrum but that it can also give some sort of objective and factually well-founded answer to the ultimate question: ‘Why are we here?’ (something to be especially welcomed, many would say, given the sort of fantastic nonsense which has been used to answer this question in the past). Today we can answer this question with brutal frankness: we are here to reproduce ourselves; we are providing a temporary home for our genes; life is ultimately only a very complex process of transmission of genetic information to future generations which is itself only a complex biochemical concomitant of the resurfacing of our planet brought about ultimately by nuclear fusion in the sun and nuclear fission in the interior of the earth.”(Badcock, C.R., ‘The Problem of Altruism: Freudian-Darwinian Solutions’, Basil Blackwell, London, 1986, p. 25.)
26 September 2013
What evolution is about
Darwin's god hits the mark:
Evolution is not about science. It’s about God.Much as Darwin's biographer thought.
20 September 2013
It's just a list
It is always both amusing and perplexing when commentators claim,
against common knowledge of Hebrew poetic conventions, that Genesis 1 is
'poetry'; it is clearly not (see also Kugel's work and Barrick's review).
Most evidently, it is a delimited list, more akin to a modern computer database structure than anything else: it has repeated segments, we would call them fields: each record has marker fields, end of record fields and a count field surrounding the data field.
Nothing to do with poetry.
Indeed, it is much like the counted list in Numbers 7, and nothing like symbolic language at all
Most evidently, it is a delimited list, more akin to a modern computer database structure than anything else: it has repeated segments, we would call them fields: each record has marker fields, end of record fields and a count field surrounding the data field.
Nothing to do with poetry.
Indeed, it is much like the counted list in Numbers 7, and nothing like symbolic language at all
11 September 2013
Not that fundamentalist 6 day nonsense!
One of the fascinating things about Alpha course discussions is that they so frequently end up at the question of origins; no surprise, after all, as this is the dominating question: its answer tells us who we are.
In a recent Alpha course that I attended we spent our final meeting with, yet again, someone making reference to origins: "Did God create, or did we evolve?"
The sub-text was: "Whose explanation of who we are really counts?" That is: do we listen to the naturalists, or do we listen to the Bible? People normally don't see a common ground, because unreflective common sense is a good guide on this; there is no ground between doctrinaire naturalist fairy tales and the revelation of God. Paul reminds us quite pointedly of this and it is a modern day theologically ignorant conceit to think otherwise.
In the answer though, this question is usually interpreted as being: "Do we have to accept the Bible's fairy story?" But this misses the point; it is really a question of basic ontology: who we are is set by where we came from, "So tell me where we came from."
The credibility of any answer is measured by another implied question: "Is your basic ontology grounded: does it refer meaningfully to the world we are in, or does it float off in some deracinated fictive talk-fest?" Or, in other words: "Is your spirituality meaningfully connected with the life that I confront, or is it meaninglessly off in a different world to the one that constrains my life?"
That much is obvious, I would have thought, but the answer that comes back is usually obfuscating fluff as both being right (how can two things equally explain a concretely delineated origin when they are ontologically contradictory, and without overlapping explanatory connections?)
At my most recent Alpha group, we got into a tangle straight away when one person asked about the basis for belief in God. The answer was to be found for another person in contemplating the creation. And this is where it unravelled. Someone batted that back with "what about evolution?" Then we got into the old half-baked tail spin of what the Bible is and is not, and how we can, do and/or should read Genesis 1, etc. Certainly not as a credible account of events because...well...it's 'poetry' or 'picture language' or because of 'its genre', or it depends on 'how you read it' (of course). All reader response gunk. No one suggested that one might seek what the author's intent might have been, or what the literary signals were as to how to read it...nothing so objective was entertained, or how it is referenced throughout the Bible...why do scholarship, when you can play Prejudice? that great game that grown-ups love.
And so we are left with Christianity being rooted, not in love-acts of the creator that are brought to us in real-world terms, terms that we can make sense of and have meaning in the real world we live and move in; no, we have an image of what we don't know, that is subservient to naturalist dogma which itself serves to unseat the notion of a personal creator; furthermore, one that has a basic ontology that is incoherently materialist (or spooky spiritualist); not one to which person-hood, relationship and love are basic!
In a recent Alpha course that I attended we spent our final meeting with, yet again, someone making reference to origins: "Did God create, or did we evolve?"
The sub-text was: "Whose explanation of who we are really counts?" That is: do we listen to the naturalists, or do we listen to the Bible? People normally don't see a common ground, because unreflective common sense is a good guide on this; there is no ground between doctrinaire naturalist fairy tales and the revelation of God. Paul reminds us quite pointedly of this and it is a modern day theologically ignorant conceit to think otherwise.
In the answer though, this question is usually interpreted as being: "Do we have to accept the Bible's fairy story?" But this misses the point; it is really a question of basic ontology: who we are is set by where we came from, "So tell me where we came from."
The credibility of any answer is measured by another implied question: "Is your basic ontology grounded: does it refer meaningfully to the world we are in, or does it float off in some deracinated fictive talk-fest?" Or, in other words: "Is your spirituality meaningfully connected with the life that I confront, or is it meaninglessly off in a different world to the one that constrains my life?"
That much is obvious, I would have thought, but the answer that comes back is usually obfuscating fluff as both being right (how can two things equally explain a concretely delineated origin when they are ontologically contradictory, and without overlapping explanatory connections?)
At my most recent Alpha group, we got into a tangle straight away when one person asked about the basis for belief in God. The answer was to be found for another person in contemplating the creation. And this is where it unravelled. Someone batted that back with "what about evolution?" Then we got into the old half-baked tail spin of what the Bible is and is not, and how we can, do and/or should read Genesis 1, etc. Certainly not as a credible account of events because...well...it's 'poetry' or 'picture language' or because of 'its genre', or it depends on 'how you read it' (of course). All reader response gunk. No one suggested that one might seek what the author's intent might have been, or what the literary signals were as to how to read it...nothing so objective was entertained, or how it is referenced throughout the Bible...why do scholarship, when you can play Prejudice? that great game that grown-ups love.
And so we are left with Christianity being rooted, not in love-acts of the creator that are brought to us in real-world terms, terms that we can make sense of and have meaning in the real world we live and move in; no, we have an image of what we don't know, that is subservient to naturalist dogma which itself serves to unseat the notion of a personal creator; furthermore, one that has a basic ontology that is incoherently materialist (or spooky spiritualist); not one to which person-hood, relationship and love are basic!
9 September 2013
Wittgenstein's egg
Speaking at the dConstruct 2012 conference in Brighton, UK, science historian James Burke told the following story:
“Apparently, somebody once went up to [Ludwig] Wittgenstein and remarked what a bunch of morons we Europeans must have been 900 years ago before Copernicus told us how the solar system worked... and to have thought what we were seeing up there was the sun going round the earth, when as anybody knows, the earth goes round the sun, and you don’t have to be Einstein to get that. To which Wittgenstein is said to have replied, as philosophers often will, ‘Yeah, yeah. But I wonder what it would’ve looked like up there if the sun had been going round the earth.’ The point being, of course, it would’ve looked exactly the same. What he was saying was that, in any given circumstance, you see what your version of things at the time tells you you’re seeing. If you’re an astronomer, and the contemporary paradigm says the universe is made of omelets, you build instruments to search for traces of intergalactic egg. And if you don’t find any: no problem. Instrument failure.”
And that's why evolutionists think its all sown up according to them!
3 September 2013
How to read theories.
Some interesting remarks in Roberts and Pashler 2000 "How Persuasive is a Good Fit? A Comment on Theory Testing" in Psychological Review 107(2) 358-367.
The theory of evolution "appears to have successfully captured many of the patterns in the...data. This success [is] the main support for the theory"
[I've inserted the 'ToE' reference, and they go on to write]:
Well, from this, I have a fair reason to be not very impressed at all with the theory of evolution!
Incidentally, the Meehl reference is a good read:
Meehl, P. E. (1997). The problem is epistemology, not statistics: Replace significance tests by confidence intervals and quantify accuracy of risky numerical predictions. In L. L. Harlow, S. A. Mulaik and J. H. Steiger (Eds.), What if there were no significance tests? (pp. 393-425). Mahwah, NK: Erlbuam.
The theory of evolution "appears to have successfully captured many of the patterns in the...data. This success [is] the main support for the theory"
[I've inserted the 'ToE' reference, and they go on to write]:
Why the Use of Good Fits as Evidence Is Wrong
This type of argument has three serious problems. First, what the theory predicts—how much it constrains the fitted data—is unclear. Theorists who use good fits as evidence seem to reason as follows: If our theory is correct, it will be able to fit the data; our theory fits the data; therefore it is more likely that our theory is correct. However, if a theory does not constrain possible outcomes, the fit is meaningless. [emp mine]
A prediction is a statement of what a theory does and does not allow. When a theory has adjustable parameters, a particular fit is only one example of what it allows. To know what a theory predicts for a particular measurement, one needs to know all of what it allows (what else it can fit) and all of what it does not allow (what it cannot fit). For example, suppose two measures are positively correlated, and it is shown that a certain theory can produce such a relation—that is, can fit the data. This does not show that the theory predicts the correlation. A theory predicts such a relation only if it cannot fit other possible relations between the two measures (zero correlation or negative correlation), and this is not shown by fitting a positive correlation.
When a theory does constrain possible outcomes, it is necessary to know by how much. The more constraint—the narrower the prediction—the more impressive a confirmation of the constraint (e.g., Meehl 1997). Without knowing how much a theory constrains possible outcomes, you cannot know how impressed to be when observation and theory are consistent.
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That a theory fits data does not show how firmly the data rule out outcomes inconsistent with the theory; without this information, you cannot know how impressed to be that theory and observation are consistent.
Well, from this, I have a fair reason to be not very impressed at all with the theory of evolution!
Incidentally, the Meehl reference is a good read:
Meehl, P. E. (1997). The problem is epistemology, not statistics: Replace significance tests by confidence intervals and quantify accuracy of risky numerical predictions. In L. L. Harlow, S. A. Mulaik and J. H. Steiger (Eds.), What if there were no significance tests? (pp. 393-425). Mahwah, NK: Erlbuam.
30 August 2013
Burden of proof
Darwin wrote:
And all we have is stories such as Dawkins concocts pointing to all sorts of creatures with all sorts of eyes. But that tells us nothing and is certainly not science.
…If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case.He's got it round the wrong way. What he, and evolutionists in general, have to demonstrate is that it could plausibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications. That might be the hypothesis; it only needs a counter to undo it, but lack of a biochemically plausible pathway renders it a work of literature, not science; and fiction at that.
And all we have is stories such as Dawkins concocts pointing to all sorts of creatures with all sorts of eyes. But that tells us nothing and is certainly not science.
25 August 2013
Theological Death
It can be remarkable, the lengths that some theologians will go to avoid a theological impasse.
Here's a good one: when God foretold that sin would lead to death, he was talking, not about a literal death (because in this theologian's view, death had always been a part of the world), or even a 'spirital' death, but a 'theological' death.
That takes the cake! It is the last refuge of the theological scoundrel.
We don't know what a theological death is...unless its not getting published, of course...but to retreat to this distance from the real world, you are not making a study of God, but a study of make-believe.
But even to think that the impact of death could be restricted as 'spiritual' death, to save theistic evolutionary ideas, it fails to deal with the depth of death in the Bible.
The Bible understands death as being completely other than good: the 'last enemy'
And this is the clue to the irrationality of claiming that 'a bit of death is OK' but 'more is not'. That is, God would make a very good creation with 'a bit of death' just sufficient to enable evolution to operate, it would seem; without impairing the 'very goodness' he'd declared early on.
So, on this premise, God could give headway to the last enemy in his very good creation.
Irrational, to say the least, and a misunderstanding of death itself. Death is the end of relationship. It is anti-love and a dis-representation of God. To include it in a creation in harmony with God is to fracture God, at best; in fact it makes the Bible, and not just the creation account, incoherent. Death an integral part of life? No; death, by any definition, is not a part of life; but its end and its undoing. Nor is it part of God. Death represents the very antithesis of God. To think that it could exist in a non-fallen world is to think in 'crazy talk'.
Here's a good one: when God foretold that sin would lead to death, he was talking, not about a literal death (because in this theologian's view, death had always been a part of the world), or even a 'spirital' death, but a 'theological' death.
That takes the cake! It is the last refuge of the theological scoundrel.
We don't know what a theological death is...unless its not getting published, of course...but to retreat to this distance from the real world, you are not making a study of God, but a study of make-believe.
But even to think that the impact of death could be restricted as 'spiritual' death, to save theistic evolutionary ideas, it fails to deal with the depth of death in the Bible.
The Bible understands death as being completely other than good: the 'last enemy'
And this is the clue to the irrationality of claiming that 'a bit of death is OK' but 'more is not'. That is, God would make a very good creation with 'a bit of death' just sufficient to enable evolution to operate, it would seem; without impairing the 'very goodness' he'd declared early on.
So, on this premise, God could give headway to the last enemy in his very good creation.
Irrational, to say the least, and a misunderstanding of death itself. Death is the end of relationship. It is anti-love and a dis-representation of God. To include it in a creation in harmony with God is to fracture God, at best; in fact it makes the Bible, and not just the creation account, incoherent. Death an integral part of life? No; death, by any definition, is not a part of life; but its end and its undoing. Nor is it part of God. Death represents the very antithesis of God. To think that it could exist in a non-fallen world is to think in 'crazy talk'.
Religious vision
‘Darwin’s vision of nature was, I believe, fundamentally a religious vision.’
James Moore (Darwin's biographer)
James Moore (Darwin's biographer)
20 August 2013
Truth, but not as you know it!
Dr. Craig Stanford, Professor of Biological Sciences and Anthropology at USC,
said,
One of our Bible teachers, a learned and godly man whom I'll call Joe, gave a multi-pronged reply that I'll summarise and comment on here.
I'll aim to be brief, as its all been well rehearsed before, for example, in my posts on Pahl's similar comments.
At the risk of over-simplifying, Joe told us:
1. If the content of the only direct reference to God being creator is denied, then I wonder how Joe sustains his belief that God is creator. All the biblical references to God's chief credential as creator rely on Genesis 1, and can only work coherently if Genesis 1 is grounded and shares the same event frame with those references and our own experience of the world. The alternative is that it is a story disconnected from the real and throws into question what the real is...not much different from paganism with identical epistemological challenges.
It strains credibility that God can not or would not describe his creation in terms that authenticate it in the world that resulted. There seems to be a disconnect that God created the world, but the terms of the creation account have no real connection with that very world. Absurd is the word.
2. 'Picture language' means 'imagery', I suppose, but I wonder if the authors of the pagan tripe such as Enuma Elish regarded their work as imagery. Even a rough comparison of EE and G1 shows a huge divergence; the main one that EE is a theogony, it presupposes a cosmos, and not creation out of nothing. We have to wonder what sort of world it is about, then. Moreover, it has evil as a part of the world in the 'creation phase'. This would line up with evolutionary dogma, but not the creation in G1. The difference is vast, and unbridgable. A more plausible relation between the two is that EE is a corrupted derivation of G1, rather than the other way. But then, if G1 is merely a competing story, how would an account of what did not happen persuade anyone? 'Your story...my story'; both just stories. It's like trying to stop a tank with a picture of a rocket!
3. The claim of G1 being imagery fares poorly with other passages in the Bible. It is nothing like the imagery in Ezekiel and Revelation, for example. The ordered, sequenced and delimited event segments in G1 are more like the lists that occur in other passages; Numbers 7 springs to mind.
4. The why only emerges from the how, and in this case the asserted 'how' is at odds with the 'why'. Any attempt to sever the two relies on a pagan ontology and not a biblical one, and stems more from an external philosophical idealism than the concrete-realism of the Bible and its unified approach to reality. Indeed, the flowering of modern science was brought by the approach to the Bible, and indeed the world, that the 'how' and the 'why' are intimately connected; as is sensible. To split them apart means that you reference an alternative real world to the one you are in where different aspects of the unified world we live in can only be explicated by their locus in different 'fields' of being. In fact, can't be done!
5. The Bible is the account of relations between God and his creation, specifically man, and God's work to restore us to fellowship with him. The creation is the essential and definitive starting point and it shows who God is, as loving author of creation, who we are, in this created world, and that relations are grounded in what really happened, not in some disconnected fantasy that attaches to nothing. It also teaches that the material world is ontologically continuous with God's effecting word.
But, where the Bible touches the physical world it is relevantly accurate, because it is about what really happened!
6. Light is produced by the sun, not created by it. Energy is basic to the material world and it is unsurprising that it was created early. Perhaps the order that G1 is relating is that first a basic 'stuff' was created, then it was energised. So, I read the creation of light as the formation of the general energy field: perhaps including the known forces: the strong and the weak atomic forces, gravity and electromagnetic forces; all of which must have prior existence for production of light by a particular body.
“What Darwin showed in his work on evolution and natural selection is that we don’t need to invoke any supernatural force or power to account for the development of life through time on earth.”At an Alpha meeting question time I recently attended, one of the course members asked about Adam and Eve...clearly wanting to know if we believed that they had existed, or how we took them.
One of our Bible teachers, a learned and godly man whom I'll call Joe, gave a multi-pronged reply that I'll summarise and comment on here.
I'll aim to be brief, as its all been well rehearsed before, for example, in my posts on Pahl's similar comments.
At the risk of over-simplifying, Joe told us:
- I believe that God is creator
- Genesis is picture language, like the picture language of other ANE origins accounts but tells us truth
- When you compare Genesis 1 to other texts in the Bible, you can see that it is picture language
- Science tells us 'how' but not 'why'. Genesis tells us 'why'.
- The Bible is not a book of science
- The order of events is wrong: light comes before the sun.
1. If the content of the only direct reference to God being creator is denied, then I wonder how Joe sustains his belief that God is creator. All the biblical references to God's chief credential as creator rely on Genesis 1, and can only work coherently if Genesis 1 is grounded and shares the same event frame with those references and our own experience of the world. The alternative is that it is a story disconnected from the real and throws into question what the real is...not much different from paganism with identical epistemological challenges.
It strains credibility that God can not or would not describe his creation in terms that authenticate it in the world that resulted. There seems to be a disconnect that God created the world, but the terms of the creation account have no real connection with that very world. Absurd is the word.
2. 'Picture language' means 'imagery', I suppose, but I wonder if the authors of the pagan tripe such as Enuma Elish regarded their work as imagery. Even a rough comparison of EE and G1 shows a huge divergence; the main one that EE is a theogony, it presupposes a cosmos, and not creation out of nothing. We have to wonder what sort of world it is about, then. Moreover, it has evil as a part of the world in the 'creation phase'. This would line up with evolutionary dogma, but not the creation in G1. The difference is vast, and unbridgable. A more plausible relation between the two is that EE is a corrupted derivation of G1, rather than the other way. But then, if G1 is merely a competing story, how would an account of what did not happen persuade anyone? 'Your story...my story'; both just stories. It's like trying to stop a tank with a picture of a rocket!
3. The claim of G1 being imagery fares poorly with other passages in the Bible. It is nothing like the imagery in Ezekiel and Revelation, for example. The ordered, sequenced and delimited event segments in G1 are more like the lists that occur in other passages; Numbers 7 springs to mind.
4. The why only emerges from the how, and in this case the asserted 'how' is at odds with the 'why'. Any attempt to sever the two relies on a pagan ontology and not a biblical one, and stems more from an external philosophical idealism than the concrete-realism of the Bible and its unified approach to reality. Indeed, the flowering of modern science was brought by the approach to the Bible, and indeed the world, that the 'how' and the 'why' are intimately connected; as is sensible. To split them apart means that you reference an alternative real world to the one you are in where different aspects of the unified world we live in can only be explicated by their locus in different 'fields' of being. In fact, can't be done!
5. The Bible is the account of relations between God and his creation, specifically man, and God's work to restore us to fellowship with him. The creation is the essential and definitive starting point and it shows who God is, as loving author of creation, who we are, in this created world, and that relations are grounded in what really happened, not in some disconnected fantasy that attaches to nothing. It also teaches that the material world is ontologically continuous with God's effecting word.
But, where the Bible touches the physical world it is relevantly accurate, because it is about what really happened!
6. Light is produced by the sun, not created by it. Energy is basic to the material world and it is unsurprising that it was created early. Perhaps the order that G1 is relating is that first a basic 'stuff' was created, then it was energised. So, I read the creation of light as the formation of the general energy field: perhaps including the known forces: the strong and the weak atomic forces, gravity and electromagnetic forces; all of which must have prior existence for production of light by a particular body.
17 August 2013
Mousetrap yanking
A friend's response to McDonald's mousetraps, kindly e-mailed to me:
Didn’t think much of the mouse traps but, probably, 25 years ago, would have really enjoyed the pot you smoked in order to dream up such nonsense.But, I suppose, I shouldn’t be so prematurely critical. Maybe if you could intelligently CREATE one of those mechanical devices and let me see how it actually works I might be impressed.In the mean time, inhale some more mate.
15 August 2013
Mousetrap stories
On his otherwise wonderful website, John McDonald says:
McDonald has to establish how Behe's mousetrap can be reduced and remain workable, not propose completely other mousetraps...designed, of course.
To continue Behe's line, what McDonald has to do is establish how complex biological sub-systems can come about incrementally as working systems incomplete compared to the final system.
This has to be established biochemically, not story-wise in Darwinian fashion. That is, Darwin, and his followers are great story tellers (Dawkins and his 'eye' story is typical, and as easily rebutted). Their fiction is wonderful. But they establish nothing.
So, McDonald has to give us, firstly, a plausible biochemical explanation of the incremental development of a complex subsystem. Then he has to plausibly place this within a functional organism. Of course, at step two he can only fail. The putative organisms aren't around.
But even if he could do this, he's only established what could happen; not what did happen. We're still in story-land.
Then, to give evolution any legs at all, he's got to show that it did happen. I can tell that he'll point to the geological record. But for this to work as an explanation, he's got to do more than the gross morphology hoodwinking that we're used to and talk biochemistry! There's more, though. He's also got to step outside the circular non-logic of proving evolution by assuming it, and prove that the geological record is more than a sorted collection of dead creatures.
Too many problems, John, and finally we only have the superficial flippancy we've become used to from doctrinaire physicalists.
Nevertheless, thanks for the Stats text. Its great.
To poke fun at creationist Michael Behe's claim that a mousetrap is a good analogy for an "irreducibly complex" biochemical system, I have drawn mousetraps in several stages of reduced complexity.Trouble is, the mousetraps are not Behe's mousetrap and therefore have nothing to say to his analogy; they are also unworkable in the real world, as far as I can see. They thus give the evolutionary game away in that evolution works well as a story, but that's about it! Its relation to the real world is yet to be established.
McDonald has to establish how Behe's mousetrap can be reduced and remain workable, not propose completely other mousetraps...designed, of course.
To continue Behe's line, what McDonald has to do is establish how complex biological sub-systems can come about incrementally as working systems incomplete compared to the final system.
This has to be established biochemically, not story-wise in Darwinian fashion. That is, Darwin, and his followers are great story tellers (Dawkins and his 'eye' story is typical, and as easily rebutted). Their fiction is wonderful. But they establish nothing.
So, McDonald has to give us, firstly, a plausible biochemical explanation of the incremental development of a complex subsystem. Then he has to plausibly place this within a functional organism. Of course, at step two he can only fail. The putative organisms aren't around.
But even if he could do this, he's only established what could happen; not what did happen. We're still in story-land.
Then, to give evolution any legs at all, he's got to show that it did happen. I can tell that he'll point to the geological record. But for this to work as an explanation, he's got to do more than the gross morphology hoodwinking that we're used to and talk biochemistry! There's more, though. He's also got to step outside the circular non-logic of proving evolution by assuming it, and prove that the geological record is more than a sorted collection of dead creatures.
Too many problems, John, and finally we only have the superficial flippancy we've become used to from doctrinaire physicalists.
Nevertheless, thanks for the Stats text. Its great.
31 July 2013
How do I know who you are?
Quote from von Foerster's 1995 article Ethics and Second-order Cybernetics
(emphasis mine):
(emphasis mine):
However, we do not need to go to Russell, Whitehead, Godel, or to other giants, to learn about in principle undecidable questions, we can easily find them all around.
For instance, the question about the origin of the universe is one of those in principle undecidable questions: nobody was there to watch it. Moreover, this becomes apparent by the many different answers that are given to this question. Some say it was a single act of creation some 4 or 5,000 years ago; others say there was never a beginning and there will be never an end, because the universe is a system in perpetual dynamic equilibrium; then there are those who claim that approximately 10 or 20 billion years ago the universe came into being with a "Big Bang," whose faint remnants one is able to hear over large radio antennas; but I am inclined to trust most Chuang Tse's report, because he is the oldest and was therefore the closest to this event. He says:
Heaven does nothing; this nothing-doing is dignity;
Earth does nothing; this nothing-doing is rest;
From the union of these two nothing-doings arise all
action
And all things are brought forth.
I could go on and on with other examples, because I have not told you yet what the Burmese, the Australians, the Eskimos, the Bushmen, the Ibos, etc., would tell us about their origins. In other words, tell me how the universe came about, and I will tell you who you are.
25 July 2013
Darwin blooper
A suprising place to find a Darwin quote:
On the Herding Cats project management blog.
I see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone - well Darwin wasn't connected with the reality of the times was he?
On the Herding Cats project management blog.
I see no good reasons why the views given in this volume should shock the religious sensibilities of anyone - well Darwin wasn't connected with the reality of the times was he?
16 July 2013
Trinity
During a discussion at a recent Alpha course session, someone gave an illustration of the Trinity using aspects of computing:
Using a typical business computer requires that three units of software work together: the application (e.g. word processor), the operating system (e.g. MacOS) and the bottom layer of code: firmware or microcode.
To use the word processor all three levels of software are involved: they all cooperate intimately; none works without the other; all three are completely unified in achieving a system outcome. All are totally 'software'; they all have 'software nature', but each has an independent identity, yet all work in harmony.
For the user, the work between the layers is invisible: they cannot tell which layer is doing what; but all work for the outcome.
Seemed pretty good to me. Software is a 'three in one' deal.
Using a typical business computer requires that three units of software work together: the application (e.g. word processor), the operating system (e.g. MacOS) and the bottom layer of code: firmware or microcode.
To use the word processor all three levels of software are involved: they all cooperate intimately; none works without the other; all three are completely unified in achieving a system outcome. All are totally 'software'; they all have 'software nature', but each has an independent identity, yet all work in harmony.
For the user, the work between the layers is invisible: they cannot tell which layer is doing what; but all work for the outcome.
Seemed pretty good to me. Software is a 'three in one' deal.
11 July 2013
Father Brown
The Father Brown detective series has just started on ABC-TV (21 Saturday evenings), based on the character by G. K. Chesterton.
In the first episode a character, evidently an entomologist, says words to the effect: "...evolution makes God superfluous..." To which Brown replies with some twaddle about the unfolding understanding of God's work, or something similar.
The character has it right, of course, and, of course, evolution is but a pack of pooh tickets, but the great irony is that Chesterton would be unlikely to have given such words to Brown, as Chesterton himself was decidedly averse to the idea of evolution!
In the first episode a character, evidently an entomologist, says words to the effect: "...evolution makes God superfluous..." To which Brown replies with some twaddle about the unfolding understanding of God's work, or something similar.
The character has it right, of course, and, of course, evolution is but a pack of pooh tickets, but the great irony is that Chesterton would be unlikely to have given such words to Brown, as Chesterton himself was decidedly averse to the idea of evolution!
8 July 2013
Collider
In an interview on the Megastructures episode on the CERN Large Hadron Collider, Dr Dave Barney, the CMS Outreach coordinator, said:
Theologians who bend in the wind of evolutionary speculation misunderstand point 2 and act as though they hadn't thought of point 3 and the significance of Genesis 1 as the basis of our 'first philosophy'. But that is Gen 1 as grounded event sequence; not as ungrounded idealism.
...what we are doing is just...trying to find out what we are made of, where we come from and what the universe is like...Or, to decode:
- "what we are made of": science
- "where we come from": not in the domain of science: so, religion (probably the religion of materialism in this case)
- "what the universe is like": both science and religion. To enquire about the universe requires axioms of departure for the enquiry. These are not established by science, but by a basic ontology and the epistemology that derives from it; thus religion, broadly defined.
Theologians who bend in the wind of evolutionary speculation misunderstand point 2 and act as though they hadn't thought of point 3 and the significance of Genesis 1 as the basis of our 'first philosophy'. But that is Gen 1 as grounded event sequence; not as ungrounded idealism.
23 June 2013
It doesn't matter...
God created; we know that. It just doesn't matter when (or how, or over how long...).
This is a common enough view amongst Anglican clergy persons. I was going to write 'position' but I don't think that the notion is well enough thought out to be elevated to a 'position'.
No, its just a view, fairly ill-formed, if not completely uninformed, at that. And, I don't mean with respect to current debates, but I mean with respect to the 'biblical data' as theologians like to say, as if the Bible is a mere theological data mine to sustain their occupations (humph!).
The trouble with this view is that it does matter when and how and over how long that God created, because all these are elements of how God's creation is communicated and defined in the Bible, and are therefore part of what God's creation means: they establish its ontology and its historical placement with respect to us. They delimit creation in the Bible, showing its attachment to the world we are in. Indeed, the world that is created, and we as a part of it.
And the time references themselves are significant. Time's constraints are universal and order our experience, giving a trans-cultural and meta-historical system of coordination of our knowledge of events and relationships, everything has a time denotation that is part of the things characterisation in respect of all other things. It makes the disparate inseparable!
However, theology that it rooted in philosophical idealism, rather than the 'concrete-realism' of the Bible will engineer the pretense of separability between what the Bible 'says' and what we take it to mean as soon as a desire emerges to blend the Bible with paganism.
The common or garden variety of modern Anglican clergy person does this all the time, and here most particularly, betraying a view of Christian faith that has nothing to do with God's created world, or thus the world we inhabit and find the coordinates of our meaning in, but resigns the real world over to materialism and the fantasies of evolution, just to appease the intellectual power-brokers of today.
It's a pity, really, because the Biblical tradition scorns the intellectual power-brokers of any day, and maintains a prophetic witness against them!
This is a common enough view amongst Anglican clergy persons. I was going to write 'position' but I don't think that the notion is well enough thought out to be elevated to a 'position'.
No, its just a view, fairly ill-formed, if not completely uninformed, at that. And, I don't mean with respect to current debates, but I mean with respect to the 'biblical data' as theologians like to say, as if the Bible is a mere theological data mine to sustain their occupations (humph!).
The trouble with this view is that it does matter when and how and over how long that God created, because all these are elements of how God's creation is communicated and defined in the Bible, and are therefore part of what God's creation means: they establish its ontology and its historical placement with respect to us. They delimit creation in the Bible, showing its attachment to the world we are in. Indeed, the world that is created, and we as a part of it.
And the time references themselves are significant. Time's constraints are universal and order our experience, giving a trans-cultural and meta-historical system of coordination of our knowledge of events and relationships, everything has a time denotation that is part of the things characterisation in respect of all other things. It makes the disparate inseparable!
However, theology that it rooted in philosophical idealism, rather than the 'concrete-realism' of the Bible will engineer the pretense of separability between what the Bible 'says' and what we take it to mean as soon as a desire emerges to blend the Bible with paganism.
The common or garden variety of modern Anglican clergy person does this all the time, and here most particularly, betraying a view of Christian faith that has nothing to do with God's created world, or thus the world we inhabit and find the coordinates of our meaning in, but resigns the real world over to materialism and the fantasies of evolution, just to appease the intellectual power-brokers of today.
It's a pity, really, because the Biblical tradition scorns the intellectual power-brokers of any day, and maintains a prophetic witness against them!
31 May 2013
Evolution: don't take it literally
In my previous blog post, quoting Darwin we have Darwin giving the game away: similar language is used today about evolution: I don't take it literally, of course, but literarily; because its not science, but a 'just suppose' fantasy.
28 May 2013
Just time: enough of it and...can anything happen?
In his interesting paper “How not to reconcile evolution and creation” (2006) Alex Pruss helpfully (that is, I don’t have to look it up) provides a quote from Darwin on the eye’s (supposed) evolution. Its a completely farcical story, but will serve to allow me to make a point.
The quote:
Simply put; if the process is mindless, time is the necessary ingredient. Time is a marker then, of no designer. Pruss’ paper elaborates on this in terms of stochastic explanations.
So the lack of this time in the Bible’s creation account, conversely, is indicative of a designer. Darwin et al have to remove the designer, and the means they use, to hide their overall implausibility, is extended time, in the vain hope that time will allow stochastic processes to achieve what otherwise would need a designer.
The quote:
We must suppose each new state of the instrument to be multiplied by the million; each to be preserved until a better one is produced, and then the old ones to be all destroyed. In living bodies, variation will cause the slight alterations, generation will multiply them almost infinitely, and natural selection will pick out with unerring skill each improvement. Let this process go on for millions of years; and during each year on millions of individuals of many kinds; and may we not believe that a living optical instrument might thus be formed as superior to one of glass, as the works of the Creator are to those of man?Richard Dawkin’s gross morphology stories don’t get much better than his level of fantasy (note the language: 'suppose', 'may we not believe', 'might'), I might add, but more to my point is Darwin’s reliance on vast time periods, as well as the number of creatures involved, to do this transformative magic, sans an actual mechanism.
Simply put; if the process is mindless, time is the necessary ingredient. Time is a marker then, of no designer. Pruss’ paper elaborates on this in terms of stochastic explanations.
So the lack of this time in the Bible’s creation account, conversely, is indicative of a designer. Darwin et al have to remove the designer, and the means they use, to hide their overall implausibility, is extended time, in the vain hope that time will allow stochastic processes to achieve what otherwise would need a designer.
21 May 2013
Evolution vs? Christianity
Nicely put piece on Evolution vs Christianity, by an atheist or agnostic! Better put than I've heard most Sydney Anglicans able to say!
17 May 2013
Mississippi
Mark Twain:
And so with the puffery of evolution!
In the space of one hundred and seventy-six years the Lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. That is an average of a trifle over one mile and a third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not blind or idiotic, can see that in the Old Oolitic Silurian Period, just a million years ago next November, the Lower Mississippi River was upward of one million three hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the Gulf of Mexico like a fishing-rod. And by the same token any person can see that seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Lower Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long, and Cairo and New Orleans will have joined their streets together, and be plodding comfortably along under a single mayor and a mutual board of aldermen. There is something about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
And so with the puffery of evolution!
13 May 2013
How dead is dead?
Every so often some theistic-evolutionist bright spark will attempt to contradict the Bible and tell us no death before A&E's sin doesn't refer to animal death. This great big exegetical secret lets them off the hook and thus the supposed evidence of ancient death (pre-dating A&E) in the fossil record is not a problem for theistic-evolution. and let us in on the great big exegetical secret that this does not include animal death!
For most Anglicans that I've discussed this with, their thinking seems to be dominated by an excessively, and I think, misplaced forensic understanding of death.
They seem to hold who God is and what happens in his creation as being in two different thought worlds. If they are theistic evolutionists, this makes sense, because their theism is usually a conceptual bolt-on to their core world concept of naturalistic evolution.
Unwittingly, thought, they betray their misunderstanding of death, and fail to see it as a breach in both the fabric of the creation, and in God's relationship with his creation as a totality.
The creation per se is the representation of God's nature extended beyond himself. This has to be consistent with who God is (and that is love, if we are to follow the scriptures); God is also thoroughly alive and in relationship within the god-head.
For God, with such a nature to have the very opposite of relationship, life and love anywhere in the creation, would be to undo the representation of himself. He would demonstrate flaws a mile wide in a creation where basic anti-godness (death) was both the 'last enemy' and 'very good'.
It is simply incoherent to maintain death as some sort of inconvenience in the creation, affecting only animals, as though creation has multiple 'departments'. Some have death, others do not. But death in one department is death in all of the creation
And death is the negation, antithesis and reversal of God: it is maximally 'not-god'. It denies him, undoes creation and terminates relationship: love ceases to operate.
For most Anglicans that I've discussed this with, their thinking seems to be dominated by an excessively, and I think, misplaced forensic understanding of death.
They seem to hold who God is and what happens in his creation as being in two different thought worlds. If they are theistic evolutionists, this makes sense, because their theism is usually a conceptual bolt-on to their core world concept of naturalistic evolution.
Unwittingly, thought, they betray their misunderstanding of death, and fail to see it as a breach in both the fabric of the creation, and in God's relationship with his creation as a totality.
The creation per se is the representation of God's nature extended beyond himself. This has to be consistent with who God is (and that is love, if we are to follow the scriptures); God is also thoroughly alive and in relationship within the god-head.
For God, with such a nature to have the very opposite of relationship, life and love anywhere in the creation, would be to undo the representation of himself. He would demonstrate flaws a mile wide in a creation where basic anti-godness (death) was both the 'last enemy' and 'very good'.
It is simply incoherent to maintain death as some sort of inconvenience in the creation, affecting only animals, as though creation has multiple 'departments'. Some have death, others do not. But death in one department is death in all of the creation
And death is the negation, antithesis and reversal of God: it is maximally 'not-god'. It denies him, undoes creation and terminates relationship: love ceases to operate.
5 May 2013
In Time
I drove a truck loaded with musical instruments and related hardware from our school's band camp back to the school today.
Our job in unloading the truck was simplified as we were told that the band leader would organise for everything to be put away properly the next day, by band members.
I idly thought to myself: we could just leave everything in the band room and let chance random events sort everything into its proper place.
Ah, but no! If we left it to random events, that is to the 'principle of evolution' it would be likely that we'd have to wait for an enormous amount of time to elapse before the instruments and equipment was in the correct place. Not helpful.
We would also have to rely on energy being converted to meaningful work; and the meaning would have to come from somewhere to achieve the organisation required; where, I wondered? Thus, not just energy: unstructured randomly directed energy is better known as an explosion; also not helpful; we would need structured energy, delivered to achieve an intention. From where?
What we'd have to rely upon is the directed, intelligent activity of people committed to the band's best interests (that is, intelligence motivated, at some level, by love) to achieve in a day what the universe, left to itself would not be able to achieve in a convenient, or even a practical time, or maybe any time at all.
This relates to a theme that I've heard discussed that one of the marks of the application of loving intelligence to the creation is that it proceeds rapidly: to wit, in 6 days. To extend the time to the meaningless durations stipulated in evolutionary writings merges purposeful intelligence with unpurposed randomness: hard to understand, then, how the event sequence of this type of creation bears the mark of a creator: of a loving intelligence.
What counts as a mark of intelligence is the time density of events along an outcome vector: events that in sequence lead to a specific time-space outcome, represented probably as a material change in the configuration of an element in an environment that achieves something meaningful (of course, all this needs greater definitional clarity); but that's the nub of it: the time density an event set along an outcome vector marks one event set as resulting from intelligence, and another set; with a very sparse density, as random; one tells of an author, the other of no author.
Our job in unloading the truck was simplified as we were told that the band leader would organise for everything to be put away properly the next day, by band members.
I idly thought to myself: we could just leave everything in the band room and let chance random events sort everything into its proper place.
Ah, but no! If we left it to random events, that is to the 'principle of evolution' it would be likely that we'd have to wait for an enormous amount of time to elapse before the instruments and equipment was in the correct place. Not helpful.
We would also have to rely on energy being converted to meaningful work; and the meaning would have to come from somewhere to achieve the organisation required; where, I wondered? Thus, not just energy: unstructured randomly directed energy is better known as an explosion; also not helpful; we would need structured energy, delivered to achieve an intention. From where?
What we'd have to rely upon is the directed, intelligent activity of people committed to the band's best interests (that is, intelligence motivated, at some level, by love) to achieve in a day what the universe, left to itself would not be able to achieve in a convenient, or even a practical time, or maybe any time at all.
This relates to a theme that I've heard discussed that one of the marks of the application of loving intelligence to the creation is that it proceeds rapidly: to wit, in 6 days. To extend the time to the meaningless durations stipulated in evolutionary writings merges purposeful intelligence with unpurposed randomness: hard to understand, then, how the event sequence of this type of creation bears the mark of a creator: of a loving intelligence.
What counts as a mark of intelligence is the time density of events along an outcome vector: events that in sequence lead to a specific time-space outcome, represented probably as a material change in the configuration of an element in an environment that achieves something meaningful (of course, all this needs greater definitional clarity); but that's the nub of it: the time density an event set along an outcome vector marks one event set as resulting from intelligence, and another set; with a very sparse density, as random; one tells of an author, the other of no author.
29 April 2013
Survival
Anaximander makes a clever guess as to the origin of man. "...he further says that in the beginning man was born from animals of another species, for while other animals quickly find nourishment for themselves, man alone needs a lengthy period of suckling, so that had he been originally as he is now, he could never have survived." He does not explain--a perennial difficulty for evolutionists--how man survived in the transition stage.
Coppleston's History of Philosophy, v. 1, p. 25
(the Contiuum edition, 2003; first published 1946)
24 April 2013
Dasein
From an essay by Roy Hornsby on Heidegger's thought:
By using the expression Dasein, Heidegger called attention to the fact that a human being cannot be taken into account except as being an existent in the middle of a world amongst other things (Warnock, 1970), that Dasein is 'to be there' and 'there' is the world. To be human is to be fixed, embedded and immersed in the physical, literal, tangible day to day world (Steiner, 1978).I believe that H was on to something of profound importance in this concept: the significance of the concrete real world as the frame of our being (the world where you bump your nose if you attempt to walk through a wall and not a doorway). The creation account links that frame to God, the creator, in the account which must therefore also be denominated in the 'physical, literal, tangible day to day world' in its references, categories and relations. Once the creation account is un-linked from the world we are in, it is reduced to mere story (myth, fiction, or fantasy, it all amounts to the same thing); it breaks the link between God, his creation and us; and re-defines us as discontinuous with the creative will of God: no longer are we 'in God's image' linked by the chain of creative outcomes, but are linked to nothing and the materialist are right, in the grimness of the dust to which materialism reduces us all.
18 April 2013
Evolutionists are right!
People like Dick Dawkins are right? How can I say such a thing?
Well, it's 'right' in a limited kind of way.
They are asking the right question.
Our origin is the fundamental question. Its answer tells who we are, what the world is like, and illuminates our quest for significance. So, it's a religious question!
In the case of evolution, mind you, the lamp is not working and no illumination occurs, because evolution is a knowledge-free industry!
The strangest thing happens when people attempt to answer the question of origins in two ways at once.
This is the ploy of theistic evolution, which attempts to add materialism's evolutionary dogma to the notion that God created.
But we end up with a funny sort of 'creating' that undoes the very meaning of the word: creation by non-creation (that is by random working of mindless material processes).
So what would this answer tell us about who we are, what our world is like, and how would it illuminate our quest for significance? Or would it even explain why we act as though we are significant, because at every turn whatever reference to God adds, acceptance of evolution takes away.
13 April 2013
Impressive timing
From Peter Morris' book "The Management of Projects" (p. 4)
One of the marks of authorship: of the application of persons to effects, is efficiency of means: remove this, and you remove the signature. The author soon follows.
Projects have always enjoyed a symbolic, often even religious connotation. Some consider the Creation as the first great project - the timing was certainly impressive...Morris is right; the timing was impressive; but if the timing was not in fact impressive; as is held by many who bolt their belief in evolution to their reading of the Bible, then it is hard to see how the creation bears the mark of an author, and it merges with the product of non-authorship. Consistent, of course, with the denial inherent in evolutionary thinking that there was and is no author.
One of the marks of authorship: of the application of persons to effects, is efficiency of means: remove this, and you remove the signature. The author soon follows.
1 April 2013
ANE Science?
In his article "The Emergence of Creatures and Their Succession in a Developing Universe", Wolfhart Pannenberg (Ashbury Theological Journal 50/1, 1995) writes, referring to references claimed to be made to "Babylonian and other mythological descriptions of the origin of the world...":
Nothing could be further from the truth. ANE pagans didn't have a science, let alone one that had results! Indeed, if you think that they did, you may as well talk about the 'results' of astrology. Go read Enuma Elish and see if you can see any traces there of a conceptualisation of the universe that would allow observations to be made as though (a) humans could draw meaningful conclusions about the characteristics of the universe and that (b) the universe was able to be subjected to rational enquiry. There is nothing in any ANE text outside of the Bible that suggests that the thought world of that day gives the universe a dependent and well structured relationship with its rational, orderly and loving creator. (You might have thought I would say that the universe was 'natural', but not so; it is created. See my previous post on Methodological Naturalism).
Rather, quite the opposite. The ANE world didn't do science at all, and couldn't have as the modern scientific project is only a few centuries old and is rooted in Christian biblical theism. The concepts that we use today are as foreign as could be to the ancients.
The Genesian account doesn't critically select and interpret anything (to suggest it does renders it to be no more than an empty and ultimately meaningless polemic: an advertising gimick, no less!); no, it overturns competing accounts and makes of the relationship between the world its creator and humanity something entirely different from paganism's mish-mash of speculation, improbability and nonsense (this is what Pannenberg illogically, and ignorantly misnames 'science') and unique it its and any other day.
Apart from everything else it does, it lays the foundation for modern science, compared to the dead ends that paganism repeatedly runs into and creates the environment in which we relate to God as person to person, in trust and love.
Regarding both types of materials one is entitled to judge that the priestly document made comprehensive use of the science of its day in critically selecting and interpreting its results by relating them to the creative activity of God.I could not imagine a more profound misrepresentation and am surprised that Pannenberg made it. The use of phrases such as "the science of its day" and "interpreting its results" is an anachronistic move designed, it would seem, to put the mythological fictionalising of pagan seers on an equal footing with the work of the CSIRO.
Nothing could be further from the truth. ANE pagans didn't have a science, let alone one that had results! Indeed, if you think that they did, you may as well talk about the 'results' of astrology. Go read Enuma Elish and see if you can see any traces there of a conceptualisation of the universe that would allow observations to be made as though (a) humans could draw meaningful conclusions about the characteristics of the universe and that (b) the universe was able to be subjected to rational enquiry. There is nothing in any ANE text outside of the Bible that suggests that the thought world of that day gives the universe a dependent and well structured relationship with its rational, orderly and loving creator. (You might have thought I would say that the universe was 'natural', but not so; it is created. See my previous post on Methodological Naturalism).
Rather, quite the opposite. The ANE world didn't do science at all, and couldn't have as the modern scientific project is only a few centuries old and is rooted in Christian biblical theism. The concepts that we use today are as foreign as could be to the ancients.
The Genesian account doesn't critically select and interpret anything (to suggest it does renders it to be no more than an empty and ultimately meaningless polemic: an advertising gimick, no less!); no, it overturns competing accounts and makes of the relationship between the world its creator and humanity something entirely different from paganism's mish-mash of speculation, improbability and nonsense (this is what Pannenberg illogically, and ignorantly misnames 'science') and unique it its and any other day.
Apart from everything else it does, it lays the foundation for modern science, compared to the dead ends that paganism repeatedly runs into and creates the environment in which we relate to God as person to person, in trust and love.
20 March 2013
Methodological Naturalism
Over a quite lunch today at Diethnes restaurant in Sydney (always a haunt when I'm in that city) I was reading an old review by Willem Drees in Zygon (the journal, not the Dr Who characters) of Philip Clayton's "God and Contemporary Science". Although only a review, anything by Drees is worth reading, and this article was no exception. Plenty to think over, despite my being at odds with him over many of his views (that's like a gnat being at odds with an elephant over real estate, I know) but one thing caught my attention.
He mentioned the reliance of science on 'methodological naturalism'. This wasn't the main thrust of the review, and its a common enough claim in both philosophy and theology of science, but I wonder if it really holds the water claimed for it.
It sets out to eliminate reference to non-natural, or non-physical/material entities in explanations of relations in the material world. At one level this is unremarkable, as the project of science (knowledge of the material world) is that very thing. The phrase adds nothing particular to the understanding of the mission: the mission of science is to understand the material world and to do this it seeks to understand the material world in terms of the material world. Gets us nowhere special!
However, it is more frequently extended to imply a certain ontological twinning, that is, that methodological naturalism works because naturalism is the only game in town. This view also tends to misconstrue general Christian understanding of the relation of God and his creation and the specific views of biblical creationists.
In setting its charter, MN has to refer to other than the naturalism that it seeks to rely upon; for instance, it holds that minds can have real knowledge about entities outside those minds, and that there are other minds that are interested in that knowledge; it also has to make reference to a framework of what knowledge is and how reliably it can be garnered by minds and through the senses. The reliability of its mission is not entailed in MN, but stands above it.
Moreover, MN is set within a frame of reference which is not, I think, naturalistic, but Christian-theistic; and inescapably so. That is because modern naturalism, and its pal practical atheism, is, in fact, a Christian heresy in my view. It, too, has its roots in the Christian world concept; despite protestations to the contrary and its evoking of the idea of an independent reality in the very term 'natural', when it really operates as 'methodological creationism'. By this I mean, its approach to the creation (the universe) as a place that operates with regularity, and in its own terms, at least at the level of our investigation, is an approach that derives, not from an atheistic/naturalist frame of reference, but from a Christian-theist one. This is not mere opinion, but a factuality of the history of modern science.
A pure naturalist position would have to contend with un-grounded randomness where anything can happen; but this would cripple scientific enquiry and put us back in the pagan nonsense of arbitrary gods doing all sorts of things for no sort of reason. Nor do we actually do science this way; we look for systematic relations and put aside any notion of the arbitrary as well as relying on all sorts of elements of methodological creationsim. This is not to say that non-material entities can be relied upon in materialist relations, but that our equipment for understanding, and the very systematic nature of the relations reaches to something beyond the material; otherwise we would have no hope of any worthwhile explanation of the material world if the only categories we had were within the material world.
Alvin Plantinga touches on this in his essays on Methodological Naturalism, although he goes in a different direction to mine.
He mentioned the reliance of science on 'methodological naturalism'. This wasn't the main thrust of the review, and its a common enough claim in both philosophy and theology of science, but I wonder if it really holds the water claimed for it.
It sets out to eliminate reference to non-natural, or non-physical/material entities in explanations of relations in the material world. At one level this is unremarkable, as the project of science (knowledge of the material world) is that very thing. The phrase adds nothing particular to the understanding of the mission: the mission of science is to understand the material world and to do this it seeks to understand the material world in terms of the material world. Gets us nowhere special!
However, it is more frequently extended to imply a certain ontological twinning, that is, that methodological naturalism works because naturalism is the only game in town. This view also tends to misconstrue general Christian understanding of the relation of God and his creation and the specific views of biblical creationists.
In setting its charter, MN has to refer to other than the naturalism that it seeks to rely upon; for instance, it holds that minds can have real knowledge about entities outside those minds, and that there are other minds that are interested in that knowledge; it also has to make reference to a framework of what knowledge is and how reliably it can be garnered by minds and through the senses. The reliability of its mission is not entailed in MN, but stands above it.
Moreover, MN is set within a frame of reference which is not, I think, naturalistic, but Christian-theistic; and inescapably so. That is because modern naturalism, and its pal practical atheism, is, in fact, a Christian heresy in my view. It, too, has its roots in the Christian world concept; despite protestations to the contrary and its evoking of the idea of an independent reality in the very term 'natural', when it really operates as 'methodological creationism'. By this I mean, its approach to the creation (the universe) as a place that operates with regularity, and in its own terms, at least at the level of our investigation, is an approach that derives, not from an atheistic/naturalist frame of reference, but from a Christian-theist one. This is not mere opinion, but a factuality of the history of modern science.
A pure naturalist position would have to contend with un-grounded randomness where anything can happen; but this would cripple scientific enquiry and put us back in the pagan nonsense of arbitrary gods doing all sorts of things for no sort of reason. Nor do we actually do science this way; we look for systematic relations and put aside any notion of the arbitrary as well as relying on all sorts of elements of methodological creationsim. This is not to say that non-material entities can be relied upon in materialist relations, but that our equipment for understanding, and the very systematic nature of the relations reaches to something beyond the material; otherwise we would have no hope of any worthwhile explanation of the material world if the only categories we had were within the material world.
Alvin Plantinga touches on this in his essays on Methodological Naturalism, although he goes in a different direction to mine.
7 March 2013
God could have....
Occasionally I run into someone, or hear of someone (usually someone else, as it happens) who claims that God 'could have used evolution', or 'could have used long periods of time to do his creating'. They usually advertise these claims with the smug triumphalism that such speculation proves some point. I don't know what that point could be, of course, because there is no point at all made by idle speculation.
One may as well claim that God could stand on his head!
Lita Costner in a recent article in Creation magazine starts with quoting this sort of vain claim; to rebut it, of course; but I think that her rebuttal could go further.
The theological point that she makes is appropriate, with the implications for the very goodness of the creation being imperiled by the contradictory (you could say incoherent) presence of the last enemy in its basic makeup, but there are other considerations that bear on the question, in my view.
God's revelation is not only a representation of what he has done, but, because God is a unified being (but not a unity, being in three persons), that is, there is no separation of who he is, what he wills or thinks and what he does, as there is with us, his revelation is also a representation of him, when it addresses his acts or relationships.
So, to claim that God could act slowly through error-prone chance processes to produce something that is purpose rich on many levels seems absurd at best; but given that the revelation is all the other way: the creation occurred quickly in direct response to his will, and this as part of God's claim on our worship, representation of him who is love, it is more than absurd. One could say it refers to another god, if it makes any god-reference at all.
Could God have created over billions of years? Which 'god' in which 'world' would that be that you are referring to, now? Our God, who represents himself as his revelation sets out? I think not. He explains his relationship to his creation in completely different terms, predicated on fellowship, not distance.
The damage this does goes beyond events in the world, to the way the world is structured. There is an at least implicit ontology in the creation account; it tells us a lot about reality, how it is structured, and the concreteness with which it 'operates'. To set this aside evaporates the Bible's ontology that comes out of the structures in the creation account, and must invoke an alternative; but this time, not implicitly. The alternative has to be developed explicitly as it denies there is one from the will of God, as it denies that the creation account has concrete content that makes sense in the categories of this world: the world it relates to by referring to its categories, and therefore has no ontological content. Yet any alternative ends up conjuring up a different god and falls into idolatry by proposing a different kind of reality, from an ontology that is structured on other than the God who is, and who speaks.
One may as well claim that God could stand on his head!
Lita Costner in a recent article in Creation magazine starts with quoting this sort of vain claim; to rebut it, of course; but I think that her rebuttal could go further.
The theological point that she makes is appropriate, with the implications for the very goodness of the creation being imperiled by the contradictory (you could say incoherent) presence of the last enemy in its basic makeup, but there are other considerations that bear on the question, in my view.
God's revelation is not only a representation of what he has done, but, because God is a unified being (but not a unity, being in three persons), that is, there is no separation of who he is, what he wills or thinks and what he does, as there is with us, his revelation is also a representation of him, when it addresses his acts or relationships.
So, to claim that God could act slowly through error-prone chance processes to produce something that is purpose rich on many levels seems absurd at best; but given that the revelation is all the other way: the creation occurred quickly in direct response to his will, and this as part of God's claim on our worship, representation of him who is love, it is more than absurd. One could say it refers to another god, if it makes any god-reference at all.
Could God have created over billions of years? Which 'god' in which 'world' would that be that you are referring to, now? Our God, who represents himself as his revelation sets out? I think not. He explains his relationship to his creation in completely different terms, predicated on fellowship, not distance.
The damage this does goes beyond events in the world, to the way the world is structured. There is an at least implicit ontology in the creation account; it tells us a lot about reality, how it is structured, and the concreteness with which it 'operates'. To set this aside evaporates the Bible's ontology that comes out of the structures in the creation account, and must invoke an alternative; but this time, not implicitly. The alternative has to be developed explicitly as it denies there is one from the will of God, as it denies that the creation account has concrete content that makes sense in the categories of this world: the world it relates to by referring to its categories, and therefore has no ontological content. Yet any alternative ends up conjuring up a different god and falls into idolatry by proposing a different kind of reality, from an ontology that is structured on other than the God who is, and who speaks.
16 February 2013
Moral Tinkering
Christians seem to want to do this all the time.
I was reminded of it, listening to a sermon by Rob Jones, one time rector of St James Turramurra (I don't endorse the current silly sermon series title 'man up for God', by the way; puerile!). In mentioning Puritans, he observed that they generally failed in their objectives for a couple of reasons. One was that they sought to legislate what they saw as godliness.
Christians still do it today. I call it moral tinkering.
The 'debate' on 'gay' marriage (really homosexual marriage) is an example. The talk by churchmen of 'ethics' classes in lieu of scripture in public schools is another.
Now, I don't really care what the world does with its idea of marriage and nor should public Christians. For Christians its a distraction. No matter who is married to whom, for what reason or by whom, if the are not followers of Christ, they are not in his family. Our mission is to proclaim the gospel, not to encourage cute, but etermally useless moral conformity. If the ship is sinking, I don't care where the deck chairs are and neither should any other Christian.
The debate on 'ethics' was similar. No Christian churchman made the point that no end of ethics classes would not deal with people's inability to do as even they would want to!
So what happens when ethics fails?
Christians would point to forgiveness and salvation in Christ. All the world can do is shrug its shoulders, and maybe throw you in gaol.
Its a bit different when it comes to the death penalty, free access to firearms and abortion. These kill people and remove their opportunity for life and future encounter with Christ. All should be stopped. That's not moral tinkering, that's part of proclaiming the gospel and acting mercifully to seek opportunities for people to join the family of God.
I was reminded of it, listening to a sermon by Rob Jones, one time rector of St James Turramurra (I don't endorse the current silly sermon series title 'man up for God', by the way; puerile!). In mentioning Puritans, he observed that they generally failed in their objectives for a couple of reasons. One was that they sought to legislate what they saw as godliness.
Christians still do it today. I call it moral tinkering.
The 'debate' on 'gay' marriage (really homosexual marriage) is an example. The talk by churchmen of 'ethics' classes in lieu of scripture in public schools is another.
Now, I don't really care what the world does with its idea of marriage and nor should public Christians. For Christians its a distraction. No matter who is married to whom, for what reason or by whom, if the are not followers of Christ, they are not in his family. Our mission is to proclaim the gospel, not to encourage cute, but etermally useless moral conformity. If the ship is sinking, I don't care where the deck chairs are and neither should any other Christian.
The debate on 'ethics' was similar. No Christian churchman made the point that no end of ethics classes would not deal with people's inability to do as even they would want to!
So what happens when ethics fails?
Christians would point to forgiveness and salvation in Christ. All the world can do is shrug its shoulders, and maybe throw you in gaol.
Its a bit different when it comes to the death penalty, free access to firearms and abortion. These kill people and remove their opportunity for life and future encounter with Christ. All should be stopped. That's not moral tinkering, that's part of proclaiming the gospel and acting mercifully to seek opportunities for people to join the family of God.
8 February 2013
Poverty of position
Quote from David Brickner in this month's Jews for Jesus Australian newsletter:
...in the open market place of ideas, surely it is the poverty of one's own position that leads to the desire to stifle the debate"That goes particularly for the dirt squad (materialists), who want to promote the fiction of evolution by suppressing contrary views.
1 February 2013
The anti-leader
I came across this piece on a church website on leadership. Now, you may know how I hate the use of this non-biblical concept, making of a type of action a static role.
But I wonder if the notion of 'leader' has any applicability in the church. After all, the church has servants, not leaders; we are all lead by Christ. The implication of 'leader' is that they know where we are going!
'Leadership' is about the one; service is about the others. Henry Mintzberg touches on this in a FT article on the subject.
So, I sent this to the church in question:
Now, instead of 'leader' I'd like to see churches, and Christian organisations (ministries?) use Christian titles for their contributors: organiser would be good for people who organise things, convenor for those who bring people together for a task or activity, overseer has a biblical warrant; I think moderator also has a functional ring to it (apologies to the Presbyterians), facilitator is possibly OK, and administrator is directly biblical. Anything but the turgid puff of worldly organisations were titles are used to garner prestige!
But I wonder if the notion of 'leader' has any applicability in the church. After all, the church has servants, not leaders; we are all lead by Christ. The implication of 'leader' is that they know where we are going!
'Leadership' is about the one; service is about the others. Henry Mintzberg touches on this in a FT article on the subject.
So, I sent this to the church in question:
The conceptualisation of leadership in church life that I read in your blog seem to me to be at odds with the way the church is portrayed in the NT. In fact, it looks like a complete inversion of the notion of the church as a body of believers whose head (source) is Christ. As soon as you talk 'leaders' you talk the individual, inevitably, at the expense of the church as a body.
To think that a church needs a 'leader' installs a concept that is foreign to the NT theology of church. It uses a concept that is at best a modern misunderstanding of how a charismatic group 'works' (or that denies that it is charismatic, in the biblical, not the modern sense), and at worst uncritically apes the world in the installation of a paganistic hierarchy where there should be none.
In the NT, the church is a community, indeed, a family, where gifts are distributed for the mutual growth and edification of people working and living together in love. A leader at once demolishes this notion and makes of the church an organisation with someone, or a small group, who commands it, takes responsibility (in an organisational sense) and is not primarily a servant undertaking a role in a particular context.
Nowhere in the NT do I see an 'archon' mentioned in the church, which is the ancient world's equivalent of the 'leader' that comes to us from the secular world. The world of 'one is more important than the many', a world where political structure, whether in business, politics, or other social groupings is the default ordering mechanism, and social influence or the imperatives of the one are prime. This displaces the considerations of love, service and the promotion of others for a world where the leader is the front (usually) man, the one with the prestige, the one who calls the shots and sets the pace, if not the total mission.
I can't think of anything further from the church, or more likely to make the church a passive shell of what it should truly be: a mutually supportive and responsive body of serving believers.
Leaders are anti-humility, where as the notion of servant is pro-humility.
I think of the program of the church in the 1980s, when 'ministry' was often the theme in church 'development'. Ministry is where we seek how we are to serve, how we are to put the other ahead of ourselves, and how we are to express our love. Those we today would call leaders now appear to be the locus of ministry, and a magnet for prestige and adulation, at least by the secular media and institutions.
But we do not have leaders, we have people who serve in various ways and at various times, in various contexts. Some as teachers, some as pastors, some as administrators, etc. No 'leader' here, except that the whole church does the deciding, and the acting. It is the church that has presence in the kingdom of God, not 'leaders'.
Its well time that this was straightened out and we forgot about borrowing our structuring terminology from the hubristic world of business and affairs, and rather judged that world with a way of being community that showed up its puffery. Even the piece on 'anti-leadership' misses the point, I think, of the biblical passage cited, and makes of a structure, what was an organic and participative set of relationships...and, anyway, Peter was an apostle. We don't have them today in they way they were then.
Now, instead of 'leader' I'd like to see churches, and Christian organisations (ministries?) use Christian titles for their contributors: organiser would be good for people who organise things, convenor for those who bring people together for a task or activity, overseer has a biblical warrant; I think moderator also has a functional ring to it (apologies to the Presbyterians), facilitator is possibly OK, and administrator is directly biblical. Anything but the turgid puff of worldly organisations were titles are used to garner prestige!
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